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Post by malleus on Aug 1, 2006 12:41:45 GMT -5
Hey guys been noticing a trend recently, I seem to be gettin fewer and fewer invites (lvl41blm), do you guys think this is negative reaction against black mages or simply the fact there are less people partying at these levels?
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Post by Vilicant on Aug 1, 2006 12:56:26 GMT -5
i really think u r just really unlucky lately, cuz blms are always wanted it seems for the massive MB dmg and just magic dmg in general, usually the mage setup is most always whm rdm blm in parties so idk
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Post by Toonami on Aug 1, 2006 14:04:28 GMT -5
Sadly your going to have to get used to it. That's the same problem that happened to me at that lvl. No one wants blm's anymore, people are focusing on TP burn ptys. Where they chain t and vt mobs. It's been an uphill battle for me to get to lvl (58 blm). If I were you I'd start building your own pty's, or better yet try to get Manaburn pty's together. With the lack of respect for the blm, manaburn has gotten more popular, but the prob is finding blms to fill the spots. Basically that's what I have to do at this point if I want to lvl. /sigh hopefully someday people will wise up and see that blm owns.
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Post by Vilicant on Aug 1, 2006 14:21:53 GMT -5
honestly i didnt notice the tp burn parties until 70+, ive almost always had a blm in my parties when i was lvling, and it seems manaburn was the problem for me trying to get a blm in the first place when making parties
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Post by Dyunei on Aug 1, 2006 15:03:41 GMT -5
I find that TP burns only occur from mid-60s upwards, before that people dont really realise that its possible or theres just not enough moves and equipment for jobs to do it succesfully (i.e. WS's like rampage, guillotine, etc.) at that level.
i think its probably just a phase; BLMs are still pretty much in every party i have at the moment and im lvl 69. Thing is you tend to stop constantly nuking and space them out more cause otherwise youll do way to much damage. People also like BLMs for warp 2 and stun. Always useful in my opinion.
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Post by Cydrien on Aug 1, 2006 20:45:24 GMT -5
from like... 10-72 most standard parties will take a blm. TP parties don't happen really often at this point. When you reach the point of merit parties, there is a deep divide between melees and the blms. Pretty much any melee DD is going to be meriting in TP burn pts with nin rdm brd and 3 dd. BLMs are generally stuck with manaburning with 5blms and a brd, which is pretty boring and kinda slow IMO. Anyways... I wish they could make blm more viable to exping...
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Post by Toonami on Aug 1, 2006 21:57:29 GMT -5
Idk I guess ppl don't like me, or it's probably I'm just to uber for them and I scare them. LOL Trust me this blm doesn't over nuke, hehe i've been doing this job long enough I've learned that lesson. Idk why it is, but i've had a really hard time getting pty's from 40+ still today, maybe ppl have been burned in the past with bad blm's idk but it is a pain to get ptys still ; ;.
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Post by Vilicant on Aug 2, 2006 10:28:15 GMT -5
eh it really could be timing when u r seeking, every job has their moments when they feel that they never get invites, look at me im a dragoon everyone saying we dont put out alot of dmg, meh we r not too far off from any other job, everyone is pretty close to each other it just really depends on equip and such not the job, but yeah i think alot of it just has to do with luck and timing toon, also they could be scared of elvaan blm low int, but pfft elvaans r awesome at all jobs, and that shouldnt be a reason to not invite someone, im rambling, u will get parties soon enough my friend
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Post by Haushinka on Aug 2, 2006 11:31:06 GMT -5
Yea, drg are awesome. One out DDed my 75 war. and yea end game PTs stop doing SC and then blm become less useful then but that isn't until 72+. I know as WAR I nearly always PTed with a blm especialyl once me and a thf were able to make light SC. I got like 8 straight levels of parties consisting of nin - thf - war - blm. THose 4 jobs were always the same.
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Post by Cydrien on Aug 2, 2006 13:19:26 GMT -5
I find it intriguing how melees need blms for their ksnm runs, sky farming, divine might, HNMs etc. etc... yet they leave us completely stranded for merit parties
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Post by Vilicant on Aug 2, 2006 13:39:28 GMT -5
lol cyd u should copy that last post to the merit static party thread, where i forgot to include u
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Post by Paman on Aug 2, 2006 16:23:41 GMT -5
*hits vili with a stick* bad vili, bad vili, "where's the blm love?"
(out of topic->) yeah so anyway those that havnt lvld blm prob dont know this but i just want to point out that INT isnt such a big factor that a blm should worry about. for example cast a spell and it does 560 damage, then add like 20 INT and the spell does 580. no big difference there really. focus on magic attack bonus for damage and elemental magic skill for accuracy.
INT helps a lot with landing black magic debuffs though.
PS. i think the new tier 2 ancient magic spells try to make blm a more desirable job in merit parties (lower MP cost and cast time, dunno about dmg though)
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Post by Dyunei on Aug 2, 2006 16:28:42 GMT -5
i think the new AMII are about the same damage at the top end tier IV nukes from what ive heard.
incidentally, anyone know how much the BLM 'nerf' has affected stuff like HNMs, DM, etc etc.?
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Post by Paman on Aug 2, 2006 16:36:26 GMT -5
what blm nerf? O.o
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Post by Dyunei on Aug 2, 2006 16:40:45 GMT -5
they made it so that monsters that con 'Impossible to guage' would build up a resistance to magic if it casted on them loads of times. The resistance wears off over time, but i was just wondering how much it affected endgame activities; i guess it was to try and avoid the mentality of 'if in doubt, throw more BLMs at it'.
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